Barack Obama Says His Daughters Think His Rapping Is “Painful”

Barack Obama’s daughters are not afraid to be brutally honest with him.

During a new interview for the Renegades: Born In The USA podcast with Bruce Springsteen, Obama took questions from his followers on social media, including on from Complex about the former president’s love of rap music and if he had a favorite verse he could recite by heart. Clearly, the question was aimed at gifting the world with a clip of Obama rapping, but that wish did not come true—and apparently, Obama’s daughters, Malia, 22, and Sasha, 19, would say that’s a good thing.

“First of all, Complex, you do not want to hear me rap,” Obama joked in a clip from the interview Complex shared on Instagram. “When I have tried to rap, my daughters have rolled their eyes, covered their ears. They think it’s painful. They even think my dancing is better than my rapping.”

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Still, Obama did open up about a song that’s especially meaningful to him: “My 1st Song,” by Jay-Z, which he said he listened to often when he was running for president.

“It talks about the struggle of just trying to make it,” Obama explained of why the song resonated with him during his campaign. “And sometimes you have to resort to false bravado, and hustle, and tamping down your insecurities. And when I was running for president obviously, you know at that point, I didn’t know whether I was gonna make it. So somehow that inspired me.”

While Obama didn’t launch into a full-on rap in the video, he did share line that has stuck with him.

“There was a line in there, ‘Treat my first is my last and my last as my first, and my thirst is the same as when I came,'” he said. “And, I actually kept on listening to that song during the presidency because it was a reminder that even when you do make it, you know, having a little bit of that sense of still being hungry, still having to work hard, still having to prove something, that that’s what keeps propelling you forward. But, I’m still not gonna rap it.”

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